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because he's not worried about the general election. he's worried about a primary election like a rand paul. >> and the other -- >> by the way, he is from rand paul's state. it's possible. >> he is. the other thing to keep in mind is boehner's speakership vote is up on january 3rd. >> but you -- everybody keeps saying that, but to vote against the speaker who is the caucus nominee, let's face it, he is the nominee of the republican party. to not vote for the speaker is a major act of betrayal on the part of any member of the congress. you have to that day -- >> the idea if he goes and forces through a tax increase, they could express their dissatisfaction, their unhappiness, by not voting for him for speaker. it takes a majority of the full house for him to get elected. a couple dozen of those guys -- >> i know this stuff. >> for the sake of the viewers. >> but for the sake of me, there used to be a sense of doing the right thing, and by the time you're the party nominee for speaker, you vote for the party nominee for speaker. you don't just screw around with this thing because that wo
in the general election with the latinos, who he got blown out and provided a huge margin in the swing states. >> that is a good point, my point is, of course, the anonymous video operator, who captured the 47%, which is why we happen to have the tape. why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard, because some part of me as a political junky thinks the best move is the crazy thing. and for that, i would give it to mitt romney actually moving across the stage and grabbing rick perry, this kind of physical debate style he also had that revealed him to be crazy and not driven by the same things that most humans are driven by. but sort of the competitive work force bought. but i think at tend of the day e keep going back to the 47% -- >> it is everything. >> the release of that. and the timing of that changed the contours of the race, forever. >> and we don't really know who is responsible for that timing. krytal, the best move. >> the best move, goes to the point about immigration, the president, when he gave a press conference s
confidently as it indicated they won the election campaigning on this very issue and that's all that they had at stake was trying to bring to the american people what they claim was the real agenda in the course of the campaign, extend the bush era tax cuts for making more than $250,000 and whatever the republicans want to say about them, they're fine to say and right now the republicans continue with a lot of sniping directed at this white house. earlier today, senators corker and alexander making statements basically blaming them for the stalemate, taking place right now. but i think it's pretty clear that the white house feels confidently that even if they don't have control of the house, they have enough republicans in the house that if a vote were allowed there, that with the democrats all supporting the president and enough republicans they could move this thing. >> krystal? >> reporter: can i take a whack at that question, please? it's mike viqueira. the question is, did the president know and as charles krauthammer outlined, you know, that he was going to crush the republican oppositi
we live in a center-right country. if you look at the last two presidential elections that doesn't seem to be the case. are we living now in a new, progressive era? >> in terms of the presidency, i think we are, paul. i'm not sure about the country. barack obama i think is the center left or left wing president since the great depression and i think that what barack obama has in mind to do is indeed to redistribute income from the top downward, not to cut spending, but to increase spending, it's explicit from a 20% of gdp to 25% gdp and rather than cut spending raise taxes as necessary to support that spending and i would say that is in fact essentially the french model. and the question is whether it can support enough growth in the economy. >> paul: taxes are going up, we know that, spending, going up for sure even before the health care law kicks in. so, we are moving in that direction, particularly in the entitlement state. not reforming it, but actually expanding it. >> aen what happened this year was the supreme court helping this along, you have the justices essentially re
any doubt in my mind. there are looking at the election of 2014 and 2006 to more than the people. thank you for your time. pfft host: good morning to you, elmer. what is your level of optimism heading into 2013? caller: i am kind of scared. the statement i went to bed, why do we not get in contact with george bush. i think he should be in here on the deal because it was him and that got us in this position we are in. he cannot even tolerate position said they have going on with our congress. if the people out here for us to be taking care of, if they have enough money to take over to another country the way they demonstrate, that is what we are in this position that we are in. i think we should get in contact with george bush and see if he can get us out of this. host: here is a piece in "the washington post." if there is a photo of the first couple greeting military personnel. this is the president remained largely out of sight golfing and spending time with his family. he left washington late on friday. a little progress has been made on the cliff talks, but at least the talkin
election, there were people around the president of the united states with assault rifles. we put people in schools with the guns, what happens if there in the restroom and somebody breaks and from the front? how are they going to protect the children? how many children do we have to lose? host: thanks for the call -- let me share with you this photograph from "the new york daily news." a handful of students tried to flee and lanza shot teem. some of the other fallen students are in the photograph. because of the teacher process protection, most of her students survived a car. -- survived a the horror. asheville, north carolina, republican line. caller: i would like to say one thing and i think there is a connection that people are overlooking -- i think people especially recently and as far back as timothy mcveigh and the people who crashed into the tent -- twin towers, they are terrorists. terrorist attacks society by creating fear, mayhem, and everything else. is the united states overlooking this? are we creating terrorists? beene young people have t attacking people with assault rif
. >>> and new reports the tea party process was imploding, imploding well before election day. including an attempt with dick armey getting aimed. >>> plus we'll have the top viral videos of 2012 including this one. >> we're all on our own if romney has his way. and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> actually, that's samuel l. jackson, he's a nice fella personally. this is "hardball," the place for politics. he really is a nice guy. >>> former president george h.w. bush took a turn for the over and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> actually, that's samuel l. jackson, he's a nice fella personally. this is "hardball," the place for politics. he really is a nice guy. >>> former president george h.w. bush took a turn for the worse over christmas eve. doctors say they are cautiously optimistic the 88-year-old will recover. we wish him well. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." boston globe reporting michael kranish has written why r
to compromise and give and sacrifice and act responsibly than their elected representatives are. >> now, the first family on their way to hawaii for the holidays. the president says he'll return to washington if there's a deal. >>> there were five funerals in newtown, connecticut, today for two adults and three children. six-year-old olivia engle loved being a big sister and helping her little brother explore. dillon loved chocolate. grace's family says she dreamed of being a painter. >>> we started to see all the ribbons and all your tributes to emily, everywhere, and a lot of you guys don't even know who she is. a lot of you never even met her. >> the last two faculty members were also laid to rest today. rachel's boyfriend was planning to propose on christmas eve. school psychologist mary sherlock was remembered for her devotion to kids in trouble. >>> condolence letters have overwhelmed the newtown post office. they started coming immediately. at first, a few hundred. now there are thousands each and every day, coming from all over the world. the postmaster says it's hard not to cry
party process was imploding, imploding well before election day. including an attempt with dick armey getting aimed. >>> plus we'll have the top viral videos of 2012 including this one. >> we're all on our own if romney has his way. and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> actually, that's samuel l. jackson, he's a nice fella personally. this is "hardball," the place for politics. he really is a nice guy. i met him. lf? c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t. so talk to your doctor about low t. hey, michael! [ male announcer ] and step out of the shadows. hi! how are you? [ male announcer ] learn more at isitlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it
w. bush for inspiration following the disappointing election. so is that a smart move? we're going to debate it when the factor continues. >> laura: ed in the impact segment tonight where in the world is hillary clinton. she has not been seen in public since taking a fall with a bought with the stomach flu two weeks ago. we're told she sureted a concussion and she needs bed rest. advised to have bed race by a doctor. meantime she has missed a congressional hearing on benghazi. president obama's announcement about her successor and the state department holiday party. as you already know, the media has already crowned her the 2016 democratic frontrunner. but many are now wondering if she will ever get around to testifying about libya marjorie omero is a democratic strategist joining us now. after we talked about mrs. clinton last thursday and i laid on that line with the immaculate concussion giving full credit to one of my tweets. one of mrs. clinton's top aides emailed me on christmas eve and said look, mrs. clinton, i'm shocked that you would kind of joke about. this she really di
organizations that elected to carry it live. and i bet they were rather disappointed when they learned, as you just said, tom, that there would be no questions, no opportunity to challenge any of the assertions made, including the two you just mentioned. >> let's talk about the tone of the coverage of the nra event. if i can put up on the screen, the new york tabloid covers. gun nut. the "huffington post" said the gun came out. this is mockery of the nra. >> i think that does not help. the truth is, all that does is validate to wayne lapierre and all the people, yes, the media is against us and they're unfairly against us. i think there were a lot of legitimate assessments and analysis of that news conference, which could be done by many people without calling people nuts, without saying they're crazy because the truth is, one of the reasons the nra has so much clout is because there are a lot of good americans out there who believe that their direction is the right direction. >> i don't want to see news organizations characterize the nra one way or the other. i want to see them look into the
in the wake of the elections, a lot of critics of republicans said, the republican party in particular need to be more supportive of immigrants, have some kind of path to citizenship. your legislation doesn't go that far. should it go further and why is it important to make at least some steps in the direction of helping people become more fully integrated into society? >> well, first of all we do welcome immigrants because there is a way to come into our country legally. what we're dealing with is people who have come illegally and in this case they are children who really didn't have a choice. and they are here and they have been educated in america and we're trying to give them a legal status that doesn't allow am fear of deportation. allows them go to college or go to school and stay here if they want to. if they want to become citizens, they can apply and get in line and abide by the law as it is today. we don't change the law. we don't prohibit them. but we don't give them the cut in line before the people who have it withed for years to get that green card or citizenship. gerri: i wa
leads to disaster. >> people would elect more carefully locally if they knew it was theirs rather than to be paid for by everybody else. >> have a very merry christmas at mickey d's. this big mac maker fair or a grinch? first right here, new fears of another taxpayer bailout . millions was workers may need you to pony up before pensions goes pust u bust. we'll explain next. just as the government is getting out of the gm bailout. new worries about a new bail out. the head of the agency that over sees bankrupt pension warning congress he may need 30 billion to shore up the funs. that's why they should switch to 401 k's. >> whether politicians or unions and employers making promises they can't keep. you reap what you put in a 401 k . if you make a grand promise and you don't put the money in. everyone know its is false . so let's have honesty and when you are promised something you will know you git it >> a lot of people with 401 k's are doing well >> i remember as a young lawyer writing the pedestrian irfirst plan where we had high hopes that forminglet mumenty corporation pension plan
was seen strict irbefore the elections and hand brought forward the dematte manned that might have been in the future, people wanted to bite hand guns. >> always the case. any time the debate over gun control flares up. >> does the framework of the "wall street journal" piece tell us anything new about best buy, sears? >> for sears, we have seen them cut costs, cut costs, sears and the kmart stores. it seems that this year the reckoning, the kmart operation, people have lost track of that if you send people inside kmart today, i think you basically find a relatively horrifying situation for the average consumer. i mean, really bad stores that haven't been given the proper maintenance budgets that they deserve. for -- is it life or death? no h i think for the kmart part of it, there will be some sort of reckoning. i say life or death maybe moves more into that category for radioshack that stock has just been getting pummeled. tried to adapt themselves as mobile phone retailer and margins getting killed in kind. so i think this year is sort of that moment, someone come in and do an lbo, e
of defense. two senators say heigle would face a tough confirmation battle and one coming man elect and war veteran has written an op-ad saying he is the right man for the job. he joins us with more on that. why do you think he is the wrong man for the job, congressman elect? >> hello, doug, thanks for having me on. he served our country admirably in vietnam. but i think our troops today deserve someone better to lead them and advocate for them in washington. mr. heigle voted for the iraq water in 2003 and then in 2006 he was opposed to sending more troops in the surge. he wrote an op ad the week end my and my fellow soldiers returned from fighting in baghdad. he said we could not achieve victory in iraq. he said the time for troops there had passed and we needed to look for a graceful withdrawal. i think that breaking of faith with our soldiers makes him not the right man to leave the pentagon. he went on in 2007 not only to oppose the surge and delay war funding and vote for a mandatory withdrawal from iraq at the same time. >> i want to quote directly from senator heigle at that time. th
come back and do it and sworn in january 3rd and john boehner elected speaker, later that week or the next week, that's my guess having observed it several years. sometime january 10th, let's say, to pull a date out of the air, a thursday. anyway, i have no crystal ball. >> no offense. >> no pun intended, right? >> yes. but actually -- i do have one. back to you. let's quit while i'm behind. >> peter, you want to place any bets and get in on the pool there? >> reporter: as long as it's not cash on the table, we might as well. i'm thinking this thing has to happen by the same week, i think a couple of days before mike mentioned but i think that's when it's likely to happen and clear this is as mike noted all about principles right now. >> i do want to quickly on the next issue coming down the pike, the debt ceiling as mike noted, that's set to expire. they can sort of extend it moving money around but i thought bernstein had an interesting take on how the president may approach the debt ceiling. you either negotiate with terrorists or you don't. i take the president at his word
." ♪ ♪ >> andrea: welcome back. rough couple of months for republicans. they first lost the presidential election. i guess you can keep the music going. why not? losing ground for negotiation on deal for fiscal cliff so no surprise they are using hope for the future. "washington post"/abc news poll says 72% of the g.o.p. is fearful about what lies ahead in 2013. all right, so let's take a look at the 72% of republicans say they are very fearful, which is up by double digits than what they were i guess under president bush. so greg, are republicans more grounded in reason, they see the future as nail biter? >> greg: conservatives are vampire killers. liberals hate the vampire killers. so the republicans are terrified that the government is expanding. the vampires are hopeful. >> andrea: have you been watching "twilights >> greg: i have been home with the flu watching vampire movies. >> andrea: noah's neighbors were hopeful for the future, too. >> kimberly: they're hopeful because the guys got in. they are entitlement dancing over their head. i would be in a good mood, too. people who are realistic
of a compromise. >> the american people reelected president obama on election day. they also reelected a republican majority here in the house. in doing so they gave us all a mandate. it was not a mandate to raise taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. >> reporter: the house and the senate will both be back in session tomorrow and the president has said he expects them to quickly vote to pass legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, if, he and the speaker are able to make a deal before it's too late. gregg: we'll be holding our breath. peter doocy, thanks. >> reporter: yeah. patti ann: the commander-in-chief also spent part of his holiday thanking the troops on a visit to a hawaiian military base. the president and first lady paying tribute to those here and abroad who risk their lives keeping us safe. he took time to honor their families as well. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in, day out on behalf of our freedom, on behalf of our security, and not only do those in uniform ma
but not until the last limit. so it looks like it could come down to the wire yet once again. thank our elected leaders for that. >> i don't think people want to thank them for that. e we can't say what they want to do on television. alison kosik, thanks so much. talkback question. will america will come together on guns? your responses nengs. ♪ you are my sunshine, my only sunshine ♪ ♪ you make me happy when skies are gray ♪ [ female announcer ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same brand your mom trusted for you when you were young. ♪ how much i love you [ humming ] [ female announcer ] children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after decade. [ humming ] >>> our talkback question of the day. will america ever come together on guns? anthony says i don't think so. people hold those it rights high. it will always be split but some type of reform will happen in the coming years. i think americans love their c
. what is -- usually we have federal elections and so involved in-. >> we have to separate two classifications, a b.s. from other civil suits. from the presentation, the courts have been very active. by some accounts aggressive going to district court. and on overlooking. greg suggested at one point earlier and how it is not d.c. circuit's fault, the supreme court left him with so much to do. it is effectively saying the problem with justice kennedy is it was not activist enough. what he should have done was not to multiplied but actually dictate, legislate from the bench all the rules that should follow these cases. if that happened by would have enjoyed colleagues to the right. after a massive decision, the district court had the same reaction to the innovation for colleagues on the bench. on the other side, the courts have been incredibly non interventionist, the supreme court has not taken a single post 9/11 national security case where wasn't the government seeking this case? none of this challenge was wiretapping and so on and so forth. there is a larger story to tell whe
] >> welcome back. it's been a rough couple months for republicans. they first lost the election -- i guess you can keep the music going. why not? now they are losing a deal on the fiscal cliff so there's no surprise they are losing hope for the future a new washington news poll says 70% of the gop is fearful about what lies ahead in 2013. all right. so let's take a look at this. 72% of republicans say they are very fearful wishes is up by double digits in what they were under president george w. bush and much higher, double digits up from 53% i guess when president obama took office. so, greg, are republicans just more grounded in reason so they are seeing the future as a real nail-biter because they are more focused, they get it more than liberals? >> conservatives in the republican party are like vampire killers. the liberals are generally hate the vampire killers because they are the bloodsuckers. so obviously the republicans are terrified the government is expanding and they are pessimistic about it where the liberals are hopeful because the vampires have the keys to the blood bank. >> did
because of obama's re-election. the "new york times" made the front page with "clout diminished, tea party turns to narrower issues." and "the washington post" reports tea party stays on the sidelines as obamas, republicans in congress tackle fiscal cliff. the most visible former elected official in the tea party and, of course, chairman of freedom works tried to oust several freedom works officials this fall. in fact, according to the post, army thieves control momentarily of the group. and he brought a gun carrying aide to remove rivals within the organization. but within a week, army was out. freedom works arranged an $8 million pay page for him. $8 million. that is more than the organization's entire annual budget in some years. over in the house, several tea party allies were recently stripped of their committee assignments by speaker boehner. so there are some problems there at the top. an influential conservative is lashing out. >> the tea party is going of to look at itself. it's been so helpful to the republican party in the past. it saved i by not going third party in 2010, helpi
is growing but sustaining that trend is going to require elected officials to do their jobs. the housing market is recovering but that could be impacted if folks are seeing smaller paychecks. the unemployment rate is the lowest it has been since 2008, but already you're seeing businesses an consumers starting to hold back because of the dysfunction that they see in washington. economists, business leaders, all think that we're poised to grow in 2013. as long as politics in washington don't get in the way of america's proess. so we've got to get this done. i just want to repeat. we had a constructive meeting today. senators reid and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over to the house and done in a timely fashion s that we met the december 31st deadline. but given how things have been working in this town we always have to wait and see until it actually happens. the one thing that the american pple should not have to wait and see is some sort of action. so if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i
in the past election, yet they want to create an immigration system that gives vises with one hand while taking them away from minorities with the other. lou:joining as now, the co-author of numerous anti illegal immigration laws in a kansas secretary of state, also with us, the attorney, executive director of the national immigration forum. good to have you with t through no fault of their own, brought into the country by their parents. what are your reactions? >> let me react to both bills. i agree that the s.t.e.m. jobs act as an example of a perfectly good bill. what we were doing since 1965, as every year he we were giving away 50,000 green cards in a lottery all over the world. thi what it does is take thoseves t t5,000 visas and gives them awa in a way that serves oured d national interest to people who have advanced degrees that can help our country in science and technology. in contrast, i think that is a disaster. it is just a rehashed amnesty version of the dream act, that's what the achieve act is. i'm hopeful that republicans will chill the wine.amnesty there a lot of good
the president won the election and that tax rates are going up. take a listen. >> on taxes, i know it's hard for the republicans, but the president ran on that platform, 250, no tax increase for people below, but taxes for people above, he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls, including some republicans. >> reporter: all eyes now turning to the possibility since speaker john boehner was not able to get enough republican votes to move forward with a plan late last week, that maybe now the senate will have to workout a compromise between harry reid, mitch mcconnell the democratic and republican leaders, and the president who is here in hawaii when you talk to his staff they say it's very likely some time after spending christmas with his family, whether it's the middle or later part of this week he's likely to head back to washington to sit down with congressional leaders and try to work this out. >> reporter: it's a bit encouraging for a lot of folks who were wondering about that question. i'm curious is there anyone on the island that is critical to the fiscal talks
. i do not think there is anyone in america who wanted to be elected more than mitt romney, other than, president obama. dennis: he was too much of a nice guy. he should have been beating the daylights out of the bad record of the president. he never really got been enough. >> i do not think he focused enough on what the president did wrong and what he would do differently. there was a lack of passion. dagen: in terms of who gets bruised now, do you think politicians get the looming tax increases and spending cuts before the end of the year and who gets paid out more? >> increasingly, i think we will go over the so-called fiscal cliff. short-term will hurt the republicans, undeniably. long-term, it will hurt the democrats and president obama. dennis: i thought all along that the republicans would look horrible. now, i'm wondering if it is switching the other way. a family earning only $20,000 a year will see that their tax refund gets cut in half if we go off the cliff. >> i think you are right. especially since we have not had the follow-through, dennis. what is the reason for all of
customers have the opportunity and i believe we all have a responsibility to send our elected officials a respectful but pointed message, urging them to come together to find common ground. this is not the first time starbucks has taken a political stand. during the debt ceiling debate in august 2011, schultz made a splash calling for boycott of political contributions it u.s. lawmakers until they struck a bipartisan deal. starbucks shares at this point down slightly, 48 cents. imagine john boehner going into starbucks and they write on the cup, come together. hello. lori: boehner, this is directly to you. tracy: exactly. howard schultz is on the campaign to fix the debt. he is one of the ceos that has come out. lori: he has nothing to lose being advocate, being outspoken. the stock is healthy the company is thriving. talk about where crowds are right now, any starbucks on any corner. tracy: i hope they do it with a big black sharpie. come together. write it on the cup. lori get the latte. lori: if washington gets back together and we get a debt deal and economy picks up? that is big if
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their elected representatives are. that's a problem. there is a mismatch right now between how everybody else is thinking about these problems. democrats and republicans. outside of this town and how folks are operating here and we've just got to get that aligned. we have only got 10 days to do it. so, i hope that every member of congress is thinking about that. nobody can get 100% of what they want, and this is not simply a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. there are real world consequences to what we do here and i want next year to be a year of strong economic growth. i want next year to be a year in which more jobs are created. and more businesses are started and, we're making progress on all the challenges that we have out there. me of which,y the way, we don't have as much control over as we have in terms of just shaping a sensible budget. this is something within our capacity to solve it doesn't take that much work. we just have to do t right thing. so call me a hopeless optimist, but i acally still think we can get it done. and with that i want to wish
get a bill passed with that splits his republican caucus and puts in danger his re-election as speaker on january 3rd. kelly: that is a lot of talk going around in circles in washington right now. you're very optimistic something can be done but on the other hand there are several economist, juan, that predict indeed we'll go over the fiscal cliff and the inaction of congress has the potential of plunging the united states into another recession. that said, they can't afford to becoming a reality. >> so far they have been very fortunate that the markets have not reacted with panic. you have not seen any plunge on wall street and the like but once you go over the cliff, especially if it is not just a matter of a day or two to allow for a house vote, but if it is really the case that politicians here in washington are so dysfunctional, kelly, they can not get the people's business done, i think then you will see a market reaction that, as you describe it, could plunge the country back into recession and it is not just the united states. remember, we're the world leader in terms of so muc
. it's especially welcome after last month's election when voters rejected a parcel tax to help support the zoo. >> the owner of the a's is asking to stay in the city for another five-years. he sent a letter to the stadium authority asking to extend the team's lease which expires after next season. it acknowledges that the team is still looking for a new venue but hasn't found anything that they deem realistic. they have been waiting nearly four years to have baseball approve a move to san jose but the giants claim territorial rights. the mayor has pledged to work with the a's to get a fair lease extension. >> winter storms caution power outages and messy roads in the midwest. want to tell you about the work underway. >> and packer fans pitch in by digging in. the effort to get the field ready for tomorrow's game. >> the second in our series of storms is marching through the bay area. what you can expect for saturday coming up. . >>> you can hear that wind blowing, parts of ohio wake up in the dark after winds knocked out power. utility crews working to get the lights back on but so
, for those folks who do not want to work, we should send them home. mr. obama was elected, so live with it. he is the president. i want to do my fair share. if i am ok with paying a bit moe taxes to make sure our country gets out of this quagmire. god bless america. host: that was larry in massachusetts. the lead editorial this morning in the financial times -- again, that's from the financial times. michael vincent, statin island, new york. good morning. caller: good morning. pastor of one world life systems. on the darkest day of 1990 in washington, d.c., i began my ministry. that is something people don't realize, especially those who attack those who work with the indigent or support for the struggling -- or the poor. when i was back in d.c., we had dan and bob and they sat in an irish bar around the corner and worked out the tax bill in 1987, i believe the year was. that's the kind of leadership the article was just talking about. instead of the people that call up and paris at the propaganda, we really have to be practical. -- that parrot the propaganda. a house divided cannot stand.
it done after being re-elected he will be hurt by this. >> if we have a recession, he is not going to be able to stand there and say they difficulty. >> the taxes would go up on everyone because it doesn't do anything about payroll taxes or the alternative minimum tax. >> or the taxes from obamacare. >> former senator i saw today said, you enjoy this is a huge opportunity for the president. rather than coming back with a narrow plan like you described, if he came out now with a big plan that did entitlements and defense, did spending, and said, simpson-bowles revised here, let's go forward, there would be a deal but it will never happen. >>gregg: will republicans regret they did not vote for plan "b"? >> they may feel like this did in august, they should have taken the deal but, look, the real problem the republicans should regret is never having a public strategy, and get the taxes off early on, and done that and made their case about the debt and been in this national debate because they have paid the price. >> they never talked economic growth. >> guys, hang on. when we come bac
, this is an unbelievable situation because it's been, what, five or six weeks since the election. abc it's amazing that they are still as far apart today from getting a deal as they were when we first started talking about this. if we do go over the cliff. by the way i agree with peter. i still there is a slim chance at getting something done next week before new year's eve. but if we don't get that deal, we're talking about a very major tax increase. not just on people like warren buffet and bill gates but middle class folks. by my calculations if you look at all the taxes that are going up. if we go over the cliff you are talking about if you are a middle class family earning between 45 and $75,000 your tax bill will go up $2,500 a year. >> we have some of these statistics by category here on the screen. this is modern. from zero dollars to $20,000. you are still going to get hit. 400 bucks, stephan. that's no small amount. >> no. just to intervene that's because the payroll tax. payroll tax reduction that also is scheduled to go up next year as well. even lower income people will get hit. no qu
to the devastating storms. the presidential election and much more. first, let's get today's top stories. natalie morales is at the newsdesk. >> good morning, everyone. a winter storm whipping through the northeast today being blamed for at least nine deaths and record snow in arkansas. some parts could get up to 2 feet of snow in the northeast and dangerous driving conditions and canceling more flights. >>> president obama cut short his christmas vacation in hawaii to be back in washington today, five days before the fiscal cliff deadline. he's hoping to avert deepening spending cuts and higher taxes. both parties appear to be daring eacher to let the year end without a deal. treasury secretary tim geithner says he will be taking steps tomorrow to prevent the government from hitting its borrowing limit on monday. >>> toyota announced a billion dollar settlement over acceleration problems and will install a brake override system and compensate owners for the alleged reduced value of their cars and trucks. >>> for what's trending today, a quick look at what has you talking online. he's only rock'n
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